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5. 5 Eyes Part 1: Open Boarders & Unspoken Benefits of Democracies

Updated: Feb 8, 2022

Hugh Sifu: [00:00:00] Hey, guys. Thanks for listening to Thoughts of a Random Citizen. I wanted to remind everyone that the ideas expressed in the show are just thoughts from a random citizen. While I do have my areas of expertise and do my best to research thoroughly before each episode, this podcast is designed to stir conversation and provoke your mind. These are just thoughts that pop in and out of the head of an everyday citizen. Please keep that in mind when listening and understand that facts and logic rule the day. Thanks for keeping an open mind and happy listening.


All right, guys. Welcome back to Thoughts of a Random Citizen. I'm your host, Hugh Sifu. Episode number five. Hopefully, you guys are enjoying it so far. It's a big one for me considering it's episode number five. I don't know. I just feel like that's something there. It's actually going to be a two-part episode. There'll be 30 minutes here and then there'll be another 30 minutes broken up after that that'll carry on next week. Hopefully, you guys are patient enough and tune back in for that. Just a little bit about Thoughts of a Random Citizen if you are joining us new. Obviously, Hugh Sifu is not my name if you haven't figured that out yet.

It wouldn't really make sense to have a podcast called Thoughts of a Random Citizen if you knew who I was. I'm just someone random. I do like to talk about investing because I'm quite heavily involved in investing. I have a degree in entrepreneurship and accounting, so that's a focus of mine as well is startups and entrepreneurial avenues. I like history. Actually, I really like history, something that bores most people. [00:02:00] Lastly, travel, politics, all things that I touch a bit about. If that is something that you aren't interested in, you're probably not going to like this podcast. If you are interested in that stick around because that's what I dive into all the time.

However, although you do not know who I really am, I do have a website, that is a forum for, conversations about investment opportunities. If you're an entrepreneur and want help getting started, check it out and see what there is out there in regards to that. I'll do some things where I'll maybe mention a staler too just on specifically what that episode is about. If it's the last episode I just had released was about smart buildings. There's a few things in regards to indoor farming and stuff like that that I've been looking at. That's a good site for all of that. If you want or have any questions for me or want a topic on the show, feel free to record there.

Also, if you guys do like the show, please download it. If you're not interested in a specific episode, but you like all the other episodes, just listen to it for two or three minutes, doesn't even have to be on. It helps the future of the show. It means that all keep producing these episodes for you guys. If there's something you want me to put on the site, other resources, [00:04:00] don't hesitate, send me an email and I will get that out there for you guys. Anyways, let's get started. Today's episode is going to be more history-based, not as aligned with the entrepreneurial in investing. I have a little bit of Italian there too, but you'll see.

It is about the Five Eyes Alliance and the wonderful Commonwealth and the dickhead Americans who left it. A little bit about China. I'll definitely come up with a better name when it's released. I'm going to try something new here as well. I have an opening statement. Hopefully, you guys like it and then I'll just dive on into the episode. We have the ability to shape our future, yet often we find it difficult to spend money that will last past this lifetime and instead choose to hold onto it.

We can't get owners of buildings to often implement changes that are beneficial to the future because there's no immediate impact for those individuals who run businesses, which is completely understandable. Why would you try to implement a change that won't affect your business until 30 years down the line? My generation and the one before me and after me have the capability to completely shape our future. How do we start?

One way among many is to ask our governments to give massive tax incentives to those owners who do want to implement change for an infrastructure that will be there long after they leave, but they won't receive those benefits by changing, like energy or biodegradable, for example. Real estate moguls, small business owners who rent out properties, [00:06:00] commercial real estate, they don't get any incentives to make the house that they own or the apartment complex or the office buildings energy-efficient. That's a very high cost but although that would be beneficial for not only the future generations but their cost, but it's not their costs until a long time. Create some incentive structure to do that.

The generation that is currently in power, AKA, the really old people who don't quite understand the technology in the ways that the younger generations do, I'm talking about the really old people like the 70 plus who are primarily in power all around the world, don't understand the importance of the rock we live on and what we call home, or if they do, they aren't really implementing much change in regards to that. This generation lives in a time unaware of what they have the capability of doing to us.

The perspective of the elite political classes who grew up in these elite private schools to elite universities who were then gifted elite positions of political power rule generation to generation over "the common man" which is just everyone, but they call it the common man, they might be a little out of touch with the "common man". It is there for our responsibility moving forward to create a future unlike the one of the past. Stop this political elite from ruling us, demand our governments don't have lifelong politicians. Any democratic socialists, capitalist, or true communist society, it is the rule of many that propel the governments in the best direction. We do that [00:08:00] by having all the citizens be more involved by creating society where politicians donate 10 years of their life to the government and then go back to providing for the world and other ways.

Where instead of taking a huge pay increase by joining the government, you would instead take a huge pay cut to donate your time out of the idea to help your neighbor and future generations instead of the desire for power and money. Politicians shouldn't be getting paid much at all because the higher salary attracts those who not only seek power but wealth. Instead, we should pay them a very, very modest salary to attract those who instead want to give back, not take, who said they're doing it to donate out of the generosity when they could be making a lot of money elsewhere, but they take the time to give back. A sense of duty instead of a sense of power.

We need to create a society that lifts others up, one that unites, one that has honesty and loyalty, respect, and love as the top attributes we value in each other. One not built around vanity, lust, greed, gluttony. One that doesn't attribute wealth, power, beauty, and fear as the main attributes we find as the measuring stick of a person's value. A future with those values and attributes would allow us to have fun that isn't capable today. I promise you a different level of fun and happiness is achieved when a society orients itself around those values instead of a society that attempts to have fun while being fearful throughout the day because of things like lust, vanity, and greed.

How do you truly let yourself have fun [00:10:00] if those are lingering around every corner? Picture this, go into a place and feeling judged about your value as a human, or your ideals in life, or your wealth or your physical appearance, and then try to enjoy yourself. It can be done, but only when you let yourself ignore the things just mentioned. Now picture yourself going out in a society that treats others with respect, honesty, loyalty to another, love, and appreciation, and then try to picture yourself having fun. It's a completely different kind of fun. It's a comforting kind of fun.

If we understood the power that lies in our hands, it would be easier to shape a world in a way that would be easier to compromise with others. Why don't we compromise with others? Fear and greed? Why do we compromise? Love and respect. Governments and societies aside, the ability we have to place our individual money in places that hold those same values allow us to shape that future. Governments and societies aside, where you put your money is what allows the future to unfold, a future that is beneficial and happy for all. Happiness is unattainable in a society that is built around the weaknesses of humanity. All those values that promote and bring out the worst in each other.

Happiness, true happiness is attainable in a society that treats others as they would like to be treated. One that gives more than it takes. I hope that's something we all can agree upon as well as understanding the power rested upon our shoulders for the future of our home, the animals, us included, and the plants that inhabit it. Because I promise you, if we continue to ignore these things, the earth isn't going to kick but we will. [00:12:00] I'll say again, the earth doesn't really care what we do. To think that we can kill the earth is vanity at its finest. We can kill ourselves, but the earth--

If we ignore the things just mentioned, we are only harming ourselves in the current life that exists on this planet, but the earth is gonna be here a long time after we're gone. I promise you that. The earth doesn't care about us. The dinosaurs were around for hundreds of millions of years, 160 million years or some crap, long freaking time. We've been around for what? Tens of thousands? The earth doesn't care about us, guys, so we should start treating each other with more respect. Just a thought from a random citizen.


Hugh: Anyways, hopefully you guys liked my opening statement. I can't imagine why it would rub anyone the wrong way. Anyway, onto the Five Eyes, the Fourteen Eyes, and China with an emphasis on the future of our world. Why can't, and I would just love this, the US, Australia, UK, Canada, and New Zealand have some kind of open travel and work agreement? That would be sick. Also, I guess I'll just go back to this, if you don't know what the Five Eyes are, it is pretty much a data spy organization. That's a bad way to put it. It is an intelligence agency comprising of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, UK, and United States.

These countries are parties to a multilateral UK-USA agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence. [00:14:00] That's the official definition. Take these Five Eyes, these five countries, and make an open border, open travel, open visa work agreement. Only citizens with passports or whatever you want to do, that's fine, absolutely. How have we not got this done yet? How can I not just come to Australia and work? It's pretty much the exact same country as the US. If you're in Australia, I'm sorry to tell you that. If you're in the US, I'm sorry to tell you that but I'm not really that sorry to tell you that. If you go to the UK, yes, it's a bit older and pretty cool, but it's the exact same.

Canada, same, New Zealand, same. There's a bit of subtle differences, but it's the same. Not only would this help our economies greatly but I feel like it'd make everyone happier. You get to travel around the world essentially and we're all the exact same. Literally, I have met loads of UK, US, Canada, New Zealand, Australian friends and I couldn't tell you the difference. If I walked up to someone right now, if I just walked across the street, I'd assume they're from Australia because that's where I'm at. At the same time, they could be from freaking half of Europe, most all of Europe, anywhere in any of the countries that I've mentioned. It's insane that we have this divide when we're the same.

I understand everyone not in the US probably isn't excited for the likes of the US to join. We can be [beep] heads. However, if you got to live and work for a few years in the US, wouldn't that be all right? That doesn't sound too bad. You go over there, you travel over there, you always want to travel over there. Anyone I've ever talked to [00:16:00] wants to travel to the US. I bet if you were okay to work there, that'd be sweet too. Why not allow more of that? The main difficulty of past attempts of globalization is hard because of economic levels. However, we're all about the same economically. It's a different form of globalization because we're all on the same level.

It's not like the US trying to open borders to South and Latin America, which, in the future, correctly is a good thing. Eventually, we're all going to have to get along and travel and trade. At the current state and time, it's not probably most beneficial for either US or Latin America, but it's beneficial for US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, UK to do that. How do we do it? Just intermingle currencies and investments on the individual level. No, I'm not saying we all have one dollar similar currency. I'm saying buy other currencies, use their dollar, keep it when you come back home.

When you go there on a trip or a plane ride, or whatever you want to do, when you visit or want to work, there's more intermingling of that. It'll create a much stronger alliance and economy. Enable the ability to open up bank accounts in the other Five Eyes countries and create a system via those bank accounts that has an ease of taxation involved to allow for consistent travel and work. Demand that your investment managers intermingle between those countries, demand more from our governments to move this closer to a reality. If you're an American, [00:18:00] invest in English, Australian, Canada, and New Zealand companies, or vice versa. Buy their currencies and hold them.

I promise you, they're not going to go bad. These countries are very stable. Ask governments to allow more relaxed visas between these countries. Our generation can shape the future. I promise you, our generation, everyone that I've met from all of these countries, wants to travel more to those countries. It's something that I think is going to happen, but with the current administrations involved, not to be rude, but all the old people don't really think about these things. They got a lot of else on their plate, absolutely, but that doesn't mean that we can't assign others to focus on intermingling these countries.

Now circle back to the Five Eyes part in a bit, but this scares the [beep] out of China. An alliance just between the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand alone would be the fourth greatest economic power in the world. It would be US, China, EU, and then the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand alliance. I think it's called UCANZ or something like that. With the US, it would obviously be the strongest by far. No, I'm not suggesting that we get our laws and intertwined in all of this crap. I'm suggesting that when you go to another country, like someone from the UK come into Australia, they follow Australian laws. Very simple.

If they want to go to the US, they follow US laws, very simple, but it shouldn't be that difficult to allow that to occur. [00:20:00] It would create economic benefits and closer ties to five countries spread out across the entirety of the world. On top of it being great for the relations between the countries who are exactly the same, trust me, I've been there, it would also be a critical piece to bring the world closer together. If we can't even unite five countries that are almost exactly identical to one another, despite where they are positioned in the world, to work and travel, how do we expect to unite the countries of the Middle East, Africa, and Indonesia?

If you can't even unite US, UK, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand, how do you expect to unite Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the other ones? The countries in Africa, the countries in Indonesia, how do you plan on uniting those when you can't even have a freaking work arrangement between our sister country. I can work in Australia and New Zealand if I'm under 30 and I apply for a visa. I can't work in the UK. I can maybe work in Canada if I get lucky and my visa gets applied. Five countries who all came from, spoiler alert, the British Empire can't even figure it out and yet we want to unite all these other countries. Make sense.


Hugh: A strong alliance between the Five Eyes and the EU means that they alone would dictate the next 100 years, at least, [00:22:00] of the future of the world. They would have more power to bring peace to the Middle East, to Africa, and Indonesia, South America. Otherwise, if we can't find those, and we can't get along, then China's probably going to go ahead and dictate the next 100 years. Why is this an issue? Let's talk about the pros and cons for a bit because it's a [beep] issue. If you don't think so, I don't know how to help you. That's a joke but please keep listening because China no bueno. Correction, CCP no bueno.

Not one person that I've ever talked with thinks that individual Chinese people or citizens are bad. They're not. Also, that would be racist, or not racist but nationalist or racist, or whatever the hell you want to call it. No one thinks that though. They have a beautiful culture, extremely friendly people. They have Confucianism, Buddhism, monks, amazing food, their food is so good, beautiful landscapes, a vastly rich history, and so on and so on. What the issue is is that their government, the one that wants to dictate the next 100 years of the course of Earth, doesn't allow the same freedoms that ours do.

Just do me a favor real quick and if you think I'm being biased, Google “China human rights”. If you think I'm being biased and then don't proceed to do that, stop your thinking there and turn off the podcast, [00:24:00] well you're close-minded [beep] face who's a piece of [beep] and not helping anyone grow together, and essentially, a waste of [beep] space who doesn't provoke compromise. You are a scum, sir. [laughs] That was fun. But seriously, this applies to anyone who hears an opposing view of theirs, and then decides not to do research and just forms an opinion right then and there.

As I've always said, I have my opinions on things but they change over time as does facts, and I'm always willing to discuss further and stoke conversation. If you aren't, get [beep] because you aren't helping anyone. If you want to move forward as people, we have to communicate. Listen, I know it's crazy, but it's like in kindergarten when you have these kids who just scream. You walk into a kindergarten class and you're like, "Holy [beep sound], what's going on?" That's really what happens what we haven't developed communication skills. Then you go and click on social media, and you're like, "Oh, it's kindergarten."

Why, you might ask, because it's very difficult to properly communicate via only words, which then can go into another discussion about how ancient texts have been misconstrued and misinterpreted over time but that's for another podcast. Am I the only one seeing this? I don't think so. Anyways, back to the podcast. Human rights and freedoms. Something the entire world has fought for twice over but actually a lot more than twice, mostly every war since the world wars [00:26:00] has been started from a call on these issues.

One entity like the CCP that ignores these rights and freedoms shouldn't be in charge of the future of our world. I'm not saying that China if governed in a way that allowed those freedoms and rights shouldn't be in charge of the world. Yes, they're the biggest economy, whatever, I don't care but when the entity, the CCP, the current Chinese government has and governs the way that they do, they shouldn't determine the future of our world. One entity shouldn't govern the future of the entire world.

Whoa, I know the US totally does that now. Let's just look at the Vietnam and Gulf War. They just invade places and take them over, right? If we look back who was involved in the Vietnam wars and why they were started and you actually dive into history and research a bit, you'd realize that in the Vietnam War, there were 21 different countries involved. In the Gulf wars, there were 35.

Vietnam specifically, I'll just rattle off, from the French and Indonesian War, which is the beginning of the Vietnam wars in 1946 to 1954 to the second Indonesian war 1955 to 1975, which is what most of US people are familiar with and the one that's more politicized, these countries were involved; France, Japan, the UK, India, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, Soviet Union, the People's Republic of China, North Korea, Cuba, Laos, Cambodia, the Republic of Vietnam, the United States, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Philippines, Taiwan, Spain, [00:28:00] and Canada. They were all involved in those wars in one way or another.

Almost every single one of those sent troops and provided financially, money, which means that you, your taxes provided money for that war. That's 21 countries. 35 were involved in the Gulf wars so 14 more countries, mostly more in Europe like Germany and Italy, and obviously more throughout the Middle East. Without going into too much detail of these wars, which would take a very long time, the point is that both Gulf wars and both Vietnam wars eventually became unpopular, and the people of these democratic nations were able to speak out freely to their government and their government eventually responded by stopping, kind of stopping, almost stopping.

The main point is that the citizens were able to freely and openly speak out peacefully against their government's actions. That's the reason the Five Eyes and the Fourteen Eyes, the Fourteen Eyes is just an extension of the Five Eyes that involves European countries, are so similar. That's the reason they're so similar is because we all have governments with certain freedoms, some more than others but essentially, we all have formed these governments because we know that one man with a lot of aspirations, Hitler, against the will of the people can cause lasting damage.

I've met a lot of Germans and I always like to make fun of them because of Hitler, because it's funny. Before you freak out on me for saying Hitler funny, guys, obviously, he was terrible. [00:30:00] I'm not saying what happened was funny. I'm saying that it's funny to make fun of them now. Why? It is funny to make fun of them now because these people had absolutely nothing to do with Hitler. He was their past lives. He was not their past lives, but these people have nothing to do with Hitler. Just like today's current Americans have nothing to do with slavery, yet we blamed them.

It's like going to every German and saying, "FU, you're terrible because your ancestors fought World War II." German people aren't terrible. They're pretty great. I can make fun of them now for it. It should be more lighthearted. I guess I could hate every single German that I ever come across, but that seems not very constructive or friendly or peaceful. On the flip side, you can remember, "Oh, God, it was terrible. We should never talk about this or it's a taboo subject," or we can just remember that we've grown from that terrible past experience and look at where we're at now and enjoy where we're at now. Just a random thought there.

Anyways. Usually, it's like, "Hey, you're an American, oh, you're a [beep]. Hey, you're German. Oh, Hitler." It's the same reaction that you get from him, which is, haha, very funny, even though it's not funny but we should just laugh about it considering as individuals had no ability to affect the change of actions from our neighbors in past lives. Unfortunately, I feel the need to explain a joke, but whatever explanation over. Back to how citizens being able to have free voice matters.

Essentially you have Hitler by the end of the war didn't [00:32:00] allow us citizens to choose. He just said, "You're doing it or we'll kill you." They said, "We'll kill you if you don't fight. It's either fight or we shoot you right here." That's not really freedom. That's what happens when the people can't freely protest. That is the main similarity between all of the EU and Five Eyes countries. That is what we have to remember moving forward for the next 100-plus years because if we forget that we're screwed.

All right, guys, that is the end of part one. Part two will pick up right where this leaves off. It'll be next week. It'll pick up more so on the human rights in relations with China and the future that the EU, the US, and the world and the directions that we're headed. Hopefully, you guys did enjoy this episode. As always, head to if you want to get more involved in entrepreneurial or investing ideas. I will talk to you guys next week.


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